American Christian Taliban Threaten Humane Methodist Pastor


VERDICT: Methodist Pastor Has 30 Days To Renounce His Gay Children Or Be Defrocked

By Zack Ford

VERDICT: Methodist Pastor Has 30 Days To Renounce His Gay Children Or Be Defrocked

Rev. Frank SchaeferRev. Frank Schaefer

CREDIT: UMC.org

On Monday, the United Methodist Church convicted Rev. Frank Schaefer on two counts against the Church for officiating his son’s same-sex wedding. On Tuesday, the impaneled jury determined his sentence: Schaefer is suspended for 30 days, and if it at the end of that time he has not renounced his support for marriage equality, he will be defrocked.

Schaefer, however, was unapologetic, refusing the invitation to “repent of your actions”:

SCHAEFER: [The Church] needs to stop judging people based on their sexual orientation. We have to stop the hate speech. We have to stop treating them as second-class Christians. […]

I will never be silent again. This is what I have to do. […]

I have to minister to those who hurt and that’s what I’m doing.

Three of Schaefer’s four children identify as gay.

After his sentence was announced, his supporters began overturning chairs in the courtroom, a reference to the biblical story of Jesus and the moneychangers.

Schaefer’s critics framed his actions as “breaking the rules” and “rebuking” the Church.

Update

Watch Rev. Schaefer’s remarks from after the sentencing, committing himself to being an “outspoken advocate” for the LGBT community. He also added that if a same-sex couple asked him to marry them in the next 30 days, he would do it:

 

Priest Condemns Homophobia as Anti-Christ, Religious Right Freaks Out


Religious Right calls priest who condemns homophobia anti-Christ

Is the Very Reverend Gary Hall a tool of Satan?

Jennifer LeClaire, who writes for the conservative Christian magazine Charisma, quotes Peter LaBarbera, president of Americans For Truth About Homosexuality (labeled a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center), as saying “Gary Hall of the National Cathedral is sinning when he claims that opposition to homosexuality is a sin. This is counterfeit Christianity in action—transferring the guilt before God from those who are committing sins (of which homosexuality is one) to those who oppose those sins.” LaBarbera calls this an example of a new heretical ‘sin-affirming Christianity’ that poses a danger of spreading within the evangelical Church. Jennifer LeClaire adds that she thinks LaBarbera is “spot-on” and declares she is shocked by the kind of deception the Very Reverend Hall is perpetrating.

Yesterday (Oct. 22), Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council (another hate group according to the Southern Poverty Law Center) added his two cents worth in the FRC’s Washington Watch Daily Commentary. He compared the Very Rev. Hall to one of the “false prophets” from the biblical Book of Jeremiah: “they encourage those who do evil, and as a result, no one turns from doing evil.”

So what did Gary Hall say that has the Religious Right so upset? Here’s a sample:

“We must now have the courage to take the final step and call homophobia and heterosexism what they are. They are sin. Homophobia is a sin. Heterosexism is a sin. Shaming people for whom they love is a sin. Only when all our churches say that clearly and boldly and courageously will our LGBT youth be free to grow up in a culture that totally embraces them fully as they are.”

“It’s more than tragic—in fact it’s shameful–that faith communities, especially Christian ones, continue to be complicit in putting our children at risk and abetting the attitudes that oppress them, thereby encouraging the aggressors who would subject our children to pain, humiliation, and violence.”

And after same-sex marriages became legal in Washington DC earlier this year, Hall announced that the National Cathedral would begin to perform the wedding ceremonies.

Crazy Jewish Haredi Rabbis Claim Hurricane Sandy Sent By God | The Sophistry of Theodicy


A Frustrated Reader’s Hurricane Sandy Theodicy

Satmar yeshiva Sea Gate post-Hurricane Sandy 1 watermarked

Upset with haredi rabbis claiming that God sent Hurricane Sandy because of gay marriage or abortion or the US policy toward Israeli settlements, a reader sent in the following hurricane aftermath photos with a brief note…

Satmar yeshiva Sea Gate post-Hurricane Sandy 1 watermarked

Satmar yeshiva Sea Gate post-Hurricane Sandy 2 watermarked

The Satmar yeshiva in Sea Gate, Brooklyn, after Hurricane Sandy

The disgusted reader’s message, referring to the photos posted above, reads, “That’s god’s message to stop MBP [metzitzah b’peh], and all that’s wrong with yeshivohs.”

It does make some twisted sense, especially when you realize that Hurricane Sandy’s damage was done by very strong winds that blew ocean water past the beaches and into the city proper, and which blew down power lines, trees and upturned cars as it blew out windows, ripped off roofs, and even destroyed houses.

I mean, the operative words here are “blew” and “blow,” and we all know what MBP looks like to most people – an act commonly known as a “blow job.”

As sick and bizarre as this analogy is, it makes as much sense as anything claimed by haredi rabbis like Yehuda Levin and Amnon Yitzhak.

That demonstrates the foolishness of theodicy – and the foolishness of those haredi rabbis who feel the need to practice it

American Taliban | Christian Fascist Calls For Extermination of Heretics


NC Pastor: Pen In ‘All The Lesbians And Queers’ With An Electrified Fence, Wait For Them To ‘Die Out’

The Pastor’s leper colony-esque proposal came in response to the president’s endorsement of same-sex marriage, which he said ‘anybody with any sense’ would be against. Worley explained that the idea of two men kissing makes him ‘pukin’ sick,’ so he developed a proposal to ‘get rid of all the lesbians and queers’:

WORLEY: I figured a way out — a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers. But I couldn’t get it passed through Congress. Build a great big large fence, 150 or 100 miles long. Put all the lesbians in there. Fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals. Have that fence electrified so they can’t get out. Feed ‘em, and– And you know what? In a few years they’ll die out. You know why? They can’t reproduce.

Updated: Video clip of the comments

He claims to be a man of God, but I have serious questions about which God.

New Contest Looks To Find The Most Insane Right Wing Retch To Obama’s Gay Marriage Quip


Contest: I’m looking for the most insane response to Obama’s gay marriage stance

As many readers know, I do not favor gay marriage. My preference would be to see heterosexual marriage abolished. That’s fair, innit?

That said, one wonders if the hysterical Republican reaction to Obama’s announcement is genuinely felt or simply pro forma. (“Pro forma hysteria”? Is such a thing even possible? Yes. In fact, I’d say that phrase pretty much summarizes the entire Fox News business plan.) It certainly is amusing to see the GOP — the party of Mitt Romney — castigate Obama for changing his position.

Let’s make a contest out of this. Which Republican can come up with the most insane response to Obama’s announcement?

First, the reliably wacky Phyllis Schlafly:

“I think the passage of the [North Carolina] constitutional amendment is a good indication of where the country is right now, but the gay lobby has taken over the public schools, they have inserted their propaganda very much in the schools and we do see the evidence of that,” she said. “I’m worried about what kind of mischief they’re teaching in the schools. It isn’t just the gays, it’s some other groups. The schools are a real threat to the future of our country.”

Gays control our schools! Yep, it’s gonna be hard to beat Phyllis. But a commenter named Al Redwood achieves orbit:

That he is a Gay, Communist grifter the Gays know, a modern day Caligula light, after buying for him the presidency they are tired from promises and want a tangible result, fearing his second term is in flames they want an advance on their original payments, and he knows that they know that he is Gay. It does not take a genius to figure it out, because many of his bundlers, appointees, friends and close associates , going back to Occidental College, Columbia University, his trip to Pakistan are mainly associated with sex perverts. With the help of the Unions and the Chicago Left these organized crime Alinsky style mob-methods have been in use since 2007 . More than 5 persons died in the process of the 2008 election cycle, two gay men he had an affair with in Chicago, (choir boys who sing no more) 2 persons of the Electoral College, one Gay, Catholic author, one passport office clerk, wasted in his own car, as well two persons associated with Breitbarts demise that are gone ( the last person who saw him and the Coroner-RIP). Therefore, the gays know that they could be targeted and perhaps they are making their case now? If he does not deliver he could be OUTED.

It goes on and on like that. You should read the whole thing. It’s just…glorious. I was particularly pleased by the way Big Al brought in the Alinski menace.

And now Dennis Prager displays his Masters degree in cognitive dissonance:

In addition to labeling conservatives and Republicans “anti-woman” (for opposing government-mandated free contraception), “anti-black” and “anti-Hispanic” (for advocating photo identification for voting), and “anti-science” (for skepticism regarding the belief that man-made carbon emissions will destroy much of the planet), Democrats now regularly label Republicans “anti-gay” (for opposing same-sex marriage).

All these charges are demagogic.

Yes, Dennis. Of course they are.

The coverage on Hot Air evinced some thoughtful responses:

Obama curtsies as he drops the soap. And does so quite naturally, though with a wide stance.

Obama comes out of the closet

I think all I said was that Michelle Obama looks like a tranny to me. That statement is not racist, homophobic or ignorant. It’s my opinion, based on her manly looks.

Angry White Dude:

There are a whole hell of a lot of black people that are against gay marriage and Obama needs every one of them to vote….at least three times each.

The Dude strikes a triumphalist note commonly heard throughout right-wingerland. Many conservatives are declaring that Obama, by endorsing the right of gay people to marry, has given up all chance at winning in 2012. Stick a fork in him; he’s done.

And yet conservatives are also saying that Obama supports gay marriage because he is pandering for votes. Well, which is it? Is he ceding the election over a matter of twisted principle, or is he taking this stance for purely tactical reasons? Conservatives have fallen so deeply into a “hate trance” that they can’t even notice such contradictions. Cognitive dissonance strikes again!

(In my view, the “pandering for votes” explanation gets closer to the mark. The truth is that Obama, having sold out the left repeatedly, feels obligated to give progressives something. Alas, conservatives cannot allow themselves to state that obvious fact. In their alternative media universe, Obama has given “left wing extremists” everything they could ever want.)

Back to our contest…

Fox Nation disappoints. Their first headline (widely quoted) was “OBAMA FLIP FLOPS, DECLARES WAR ON MARRIAGE.” The less nutty revised version reads: “OBAMA FLIP FLOPS ON GAY MARRIAGE.” If Fox had allowed the first headline to stand, they might have won our little tournament.

Fans of high loopiness will, of course, want to visit Alex Jones’ Prison Planet, where a sage named Chuck Baldwin asks: “Does Homosexual Marriage Signal America’s Final Undoing?”

Beyond that, the willingness of our political and judicial leaders to embrace homosexuality reveals their rejection of God’s moral law and authority. It is no coincidence that within a matter of weeks after the White House and federal courts collaborated to remove the Ten Commandments from the Alabama Judicial Building in Montgomery that the entire nation would be embroiled in a fever pitch effort to legalize same sex marriage. God will not be mocked. When one sows to the wind, he reaps a whirlwind.

By accepting homosexuality, America is now fueling the flames of debauchery. When homosexuality is finally and fully accepted by American law, pedophilia and other more onerous behavior will not be far behind. As such, America is on the verge of a self- induced implosion.

Chuck argues that conservatives, ill-served by the GOP, should support the Constitution Party, whose presidential nominee is Michael Peroutka.

So, who wins the award for Nuttiest Conservative Response? For me, the answer is clear: Big Al Redwood deserves the gold medal because he brought in the Alinski meme — the crowning moment of crazy. Chuck Baldwin gets the silver, and Phyllis gets the bronze.